Monday, April 8, 2013

Suppressed Hunting in NC Soon to be Legal?

Suppressor + Hunting: About as natural and obvious as Peanut Butter + Jelly


On Tuesday, April 9, 2013, NC Senate Bill 201 is scheduled to be discussed. If passed, this bill would allow the use of lawfully possessed suppressors for hunting in NC. If you know anything at all about guns and suppressors, and you have an IQ anywhere higher than your shoe size, you would automatically know that hunting with suppressors is a no brainer. There's really no reason to waste each others time preaching to the choir, as they say. What we need to do... and do it NOW, is share our knowledge and enthusiasm about this topic with the powers that be who hold the power to make this bill a reality.

I've composed a letter that you are welcome to use if you'd like. Just copy my letter below in an email, sign (type) your name, and email it to as many representatives in NC as you can. Or, write your own email. Or call. Whatever you do... just urge them to support SB 201.

This is very important! Do it now! Thank you.

Below is a list of legislators who are supposed to hear the bill on April 9. That's tomorrow, folks. Email them now. The letter for you to use is below the names:

Sen. Andrew C. Brock (Co-Chairman)
Phone: (919) 715-0690

Sen. Brent Jackson (Co-Chairman)
Phone: (919) 733-5705

Sen. Bill Cook (Vice Chairman)
Phone: (919) 715-8293

Sen. Austin M. Allran
Phone: (919) 733-5876

Sen. Chad Barefoot
Phone: (919) 715-3036

Sen. Stan Bingham
Phone: (919) 733-5665

Sen. Angela R. Bryant
Phone: (919) 733-5878

Sen. Daniel G. Clodfelter
Phone: (919) 715-8331

Sen. Joel D. M. Ford
Phone: (919) 733-5955

Sen. Fletcher L. Hartsell, Jr.
Phone: (919) 733-7223

Sen. Eleanor Kinnaird
Phone: (919) 733-5804

Sen. Gene McLaurin
Phone: (919) 733-5953

Sen. Ronald J. Rabin
Phone: (919) 733-5748

Sen. Bill Rabon
Phone: (919) 733-5963

Sen. Shirley B. Randleman
Phone: (919) 733-5743

Sen. Tommy Tucker
Phone: (919) 733-7659

Sen. Trudy Wade
Phone: (919) 733-5856

Sen. Michael P. Walters
Phone: (919) 733-5651

To Whom it May Concern:

As you probably already know, on April 9, 2013, Senator Shirley Randleman's Senate Bill 201 is scheduled to be heard. If passed, this Bill would allow for the use of lawfully possessed suppressors while hunting.

I implore you to support this important piece of legislation.

There is a plethora of information freely available today which reinforces the reasons for using firearm suppressors while hunting. Books and articles have been written, studies have been done, and other state governments... and even other countries have overwhelmingly concluded, based on their findings, that hunting with a suppressor-equipped firearm makes absolute sense. No matter how you slice it,  there are practically ZERO downsides to using a suppressor while hunting. Because time is of utmost importance, I'll save you the trouble of conducting your own research, and provide a list of reasons right here.

Suppressors are regulated at the federal level, falling under the purview of the NFA Branch of the BATFE. They have always been legal for private ownership at the federal level. Individual states may or may not allow private ownership. North Carolina does allow private ownership.

Up until now, however, hunting with a suppressor has not been legally possible due to some ambiguous wording in NC General Statue 14-288.8, as well the "Manner of Take" for hunting regulations and restrictions. The wording of the law notwithstanding, the true facts of what suppressors really are and what they do, are completely contrary to the perception of the populace in general.

Here are some facts:

1. Suppressors are mufflers. They’re just like what's on your car. If your car was not equipped with "suppressors", it would sound like a lot like a machine gun.

2. Suppressors do not silence firearms. Hollywood's depiction of "silencers" is laughably incorrect. The blast is still very evident, but the sound pressure is reduced to a safer level.

3. Firearm reports (blasts) are dangerous to human hearing. Hearing loss is progressive. It never restores itself.

4. A suppressed firearm sounds roughly the same to the hunter as it would sound (and feel) if the hunter were wearing passive ear protection like earplugs or muffs. Therefore, no need for the hunter to wear hearing protection if he or she is using a suppressed firearm.

5. Suppressors also benefit those around the hunter. No need to wear ear protection, even if you're not the hunter. People living in neighborhoods close to hunting grounds will be much less annoyed/scared/upset/etc. if hunters used suppressors. They will still hear something, but it won't be a tremendous blast.

6. Suppressors were added to the NFA's list of "weapons" to be regulated in 1934 under the assumption that people would use them to poach their neighbor's livestock. There never has been any evidence to support that claim by the Congress of 1934, nor today. And there are still 100s of thousands of suppressors in use today in the USA,… most in states that DO allow suppressed hunting, yet poaching with suppressors simply does not happen.

7. Individuals who own suppressors are in the top-tier of the law-abiding class of the population. They do not commit crimes.... especially with suppressors. Yes, this statement is more subjective than fact. However, here are reasons for my claim:

a) Concealed Carry permit holders are 13% times LESS likely to commit ANY crime than the general population -- and this is not compared to stats of the "criminal class", it is compared to members of the general population like you and I, who have no interest in breaking the law.

b) 99% of suppressor owners also possess their Concealed Carry permit. Therefore, it can be said that suppressor owners are “cleaner” than your average babysitter.

c) The only study I've ever seen on the criminal use of suppressors found that between 1995 and 2005, out of 40,000 homicides which were committed in the USA, only .001% of them involved suppressors. That’s 4 out of 40,000. That is practically a non-consequential number. There are many more seemingly safe activities that we don’t ever consider regulating yet result in many more deaths. For example, many more people during that time-frame drowned in their bathtubs. In my opinion, any regulation of suppressors is unwarranted based on the available statistics.

8. England changed their laws to require that suppressors be used by hunters (in certain locales). Why? The HSE (Health Safety Executive) conducted a study of suppressors,\ and discovered that their government would spend less money for restorative hearing procedures for their citizens if sportsmen would use suppressors. A suppressor costs a lot less than years of hearing aids, funded by tax dollars.

9. Almost all branches of the US Military now use suppressors in training and combat to protect soldiers hearing. Because of many years the military gave no regard to hearing protection, the VA (Veterans Administration) spends billions of dollars every year forhearing aids for our veterans. Over time, the VA will spend less money for hearing procedures because of the recent proliferation of suppressor use in the military.

10. Firearm and suppressor owners are very politically savvy. We keep track of who votes or does not vote to protect our 2nd amendment rights. Please continue to support legislation that reinforces the attitudes of the constituents you represent.

I could go on, but hopefully, this is enough for you to get a good idea of my position on the virtues of suppressors. And I speak for thousands of other lawful American and North Carolinian hunters as well.

Please support SB 201.

Thank you,


  1. Thanks for posting this. eMail sent!

  2. Received very cordial responses from Senators Ron Rabin and Brent Jackson's office indicating they will support it!

  3. Thanks for everyone's efforts. I'm confident that common sense will prevail and our legislators will pass this bill to lift this unnecessary restriction. Ever notice that actual "common sense gun laws" (as many politicians like to phrase it) tend to be when existing gun laws are repealed?

    Rarely do MORE gun laws ever make "common sense".

    Thanks again,

    Eric M.

  4. So, will the passage of this bill alone make it any easier to obtain a suppressor in NC, or do you still have to go the trust route if your LEO won't sign?

  5. SB201 had some activity today. Anyone more familiar with our legislative processes that can decipher if the activity was positive or negative?

    04/30/2013 House Ref to the Com on Agriculture, if favorable, Environment, if favorable, Judiciary, if favorable, Rules, Calendar, and Operations of the House
    06/26/2013 House Serial Referral To Environment Stricken
    06/26/2013 House Serial Referral To Judiciary Stricken
    06/26/2013 House Serial Referral To Rules, Calendar, and Operations of the House Stricken
    06/26/2013 House Withdrawn From Com
    06/26/2013 House Re-ref Com On Judiciary Subcommittee A

  6. Passed. Signed. Law on October 1st, 2013.