Monday, March 24, 2014

Suppressors and Other Toys: a Fun Shoot & NFA Demo

To celebrate the re-birth of Spring (which officially happened on Thursday, March 20 at 12:57 P.M. Eastern, year of our Lord 2014), we thought it fitting to usher in the new season with lot of suppressed shooting. And as it turned out, the weather on Saturday was awesome, we brought out some of our demo guns and silencers and invited a few friends. The result was very satisfactory. Fun was had by all, and despite many hundreds... or maybe even thousands of rounds fired that day, nobody in our little shooting party died.

Take that, Dianne Feinstein.

I was preoccupied for most of the day with shooting stuff and talking shop with my friends, and I never thought to pull out my camera to document any of the festivities. But we were lucky enough that one guy's girlfriend had the presence of mind to snap a few shots. Here are a few pictures for you to enjoy:

This first picture is me shooting an IWI Tavor 5.56 bullpup rifle with an XCaliber Firearms Mountaineer-D suppressor. I think this rifle makes a great suppressor host. It is short (bullpup design), but still has a full 16" barrel. The longer barrel means that it suppresses well. Also, most of the weight of this rifle is concentrated toward the rear, so hanging a silencer on the end of the barrel doesn't make it feel nose-heavy.  
IWI Tavor 5.56 with Xcaliber Firearms Mountaineer-D suppressor. No hearing protection needed.

This is a Rossi Ranch Hand .38SP / .357Mag SBR with a Silencerco 9Osprey suppressor. This set up is interesting... it's an unlikely marriage of a John Wayne mare's leg lever-action rifle with a ├╝ber-modern eccentric design suppressor. But the result is awesome. 158 grain .38 Special ammo is inherently subsonic. Add that important ingredient to the lever-action rifle (no cycling noise) and you get a very quiet and accurate rabbit popper.
Rossi Ranch Hand SBR with Silencerco 9Osprey suppressor.

Here are some of the long guns and SBRs we played with. The suppressors that we swapped around among various hosts were the Silencerco Saker, Mack Brothers Varminter 2.0, AAC Ti-Rant 45, Silencerco/SWR Octane 9 HD, Silencerco 9Osprey, XCaliber Firearms Mountaineer-D, Silencerco Sparrow, XCaliber Genesis, Thompson Machine Isis22, XCaliber Firearms Genesis Micro, Wilson Combat Whisper and Cadiz Gun Works Econo-Can.
All you can eat buffet.

 Some of the handguns we played with.
... and desert!

Me showing my 9-year-old son a few things about shooting a pistol. He shot a GSG .22LR pistol with a Genesis suppressor very well.

I say, "when they start picking up sticks and pointing them and saying BANG!.." it's time to start teaching them about firearms. So... yeah, about 3 or 4-years old is a good start.

My son again. This is his favorite combo: a Savage MKII bolt-action .22LR rile with a Thompson Machine Isis22 suppressor, Weaver scope and Harris bi-pod. He likes the pin-point accuracy it has. He felled one of the wooden stands for our proprietary, and soon to be patented Paper Plate & Shoot-N-See Targets. After working on one area of the "trunk" quietly for a couple mags, the "tree" finally fell.   
Savage MKII with Thompson Machine Isis22 suppressor, Weaver scope and Harris bi-pod.

Paper Plate & Shoot-N-See range with a few AR550 steel poppers.
Improvised range. Berm is about 60 yards.

Never assume. Most of the guys who came to our little event are gun guys, but it's always a good idea to reiterate the four basic, common sense gun rules. 
Sir, Yes Sir!, Jeff Cooper.

We even set up a remote-controlled clay pigeon target thrower. My Mossberg 590A1 12-gauge shotgun isn't exactly the kind of gun you'd bring to a sporting clays function, but in the right hands, it can sling out a couple of loads fairly quickly and accurately. 
Every self-respecting shotgun owner needs one of these.

The whole day was a lot of fun. We thought it was a good way to ring in some warmer weather, and I think that everyone who came agreed.

Now, if all goes well, we'll do a very similar event next weekend (3/29/14) at the DPRC (Durham Pistol and Rifle Club) in Durham, NC. It's actually in Haw River NC, but a quick Google search will give you all the info you need. As far as NC SILENCER is concerned, we will be at this event as a guest of the club who is hosting one of their fun shoots and demo days. We are using this opportunity to once again let our customers come and try out their toys that we have in quarantine. It's kind of like a conjugal visit. The event is open to the public, so come one, come all. The DPRC is charging a $20 admission fee, but if you want to come shoot any of our demo suppressors, feel free. We would appreciate it if you brought some of your own ammo, though. We only have so much..

So, try to keep your Saturday open next weekend and swing by if you can. It is March 29, 2014 and it's at the DPRC in Durham, NC. Hope to see you there!


Eric Morton, Owner/Manager

Saturday, March 15, 2014

How To Buy a Firearm Silencer in NC

They're from the government and they're here to help.

If you're a veteran to the NFA world, this is basic info for you. But many people have never purchased a suppressor - aka silencer - and may be intimidated by the process. I realize that it's hard to imagine that there are still gun guys out there who have never bought a suppressor, but it's true... yes, there are still a few hold-outs. So, the purpose of this post is to clarify what you need to do in order to buy a suppressor if you are a resident of NC and are new to the whole process.

There is so much information online from conflicting sources that it might seem overwhelming at first. But the reality is that buying a suppressor is very simple... especially when you choose to work with a company that is experienced with all the ins and outs of the whole process (that would be NC SILENCER, of course). As the late, great philosopher Aristotle said, "It is easier to buy a suppressor from NC SILENCER than to buy a dishwasher." That is such a true statement... mainly because NC SILENCER doesn't sell dishwashers.

The first thing you need to do is determine if suppressor ownership is legal where you live.
Currently, the following states allow private ownership of suppressors: AL, AR, AK, AZ, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MI, MO, MS, MT, ND, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WI, WV, and WY. We at NC SILENCER are experts at helping residents of North Carolina legally obtain suppressors, but if you live somewhere other than NC, don't despair just yet. Contact us and we'll discuss your options.

Many people are under the false impression that they need a “Class 3” license in order to own a suppressor. There is no requirement for you to obtain any kind of special license to buy and own suppressors. The Class 3 designation is simply a title that ATF gives to certain FFL dealers who have become licensed to deal in NFA (National Firearm Act) items. So, the dealer you buy your suppressor from needs to be licensed, but you do not. All you basically do when you buy a suppressor is apply for a tax-paid transfer of the item from the dealer to you. This flat-fee tax ($200) registers the suppressor in your name or your Trust's name (more about Trust's later). Think of it like a $200 cover fee imposed by the ATF to gain entrance to the party. The paperwork aspect of the process is easy when you work with NC SILENCER because we do it all for you.

There are three possible ways that we can help you register a suppressor to you. Any of these methods causes the suppressor to be legally transferred into your possession. So, what are the pros and cons of each of these methods? How should you register your new silencer?

1. Register the suppressor in your own name

Frankly, under current federal and North Carolina law, we see no advantages to registering a suppressor in your name. It's very unlikely you'd be able to register the suppressor in your name anyway in NC because over 90% of sheriffs in NC - at the time of me writing this post - do NOT like to sign off on your paperwork. They have no legal obligation to sign for you, so if they don't want to or they don't like the way you look, they simply will refuse to sign. So basically, this method is a dead-end road anyway.

  • Requires signature from chief law-enforcement officer where you live (typically your sheriff).
  • Requires fingerprint cards.
  • Your forms cannot be filed electronically, which means they will generally take quite a bit longer to be approved.

2. Register the suppressor to a trust

  • Anyone listed as a trustee in the trust can be in possession of the suppressor.
  • A revocable trust can be changed at any time without notifying the ATF.Your paperwork can be filed electronically – which is faster than a paper-based submission.
  • No signature is required from chief law-enforcement officer.
  • No fingerprint cards are required You only need to create the trust once. The same trust can be used for all future suppressors or other NFA items (such as short barreled rifles).
In our opinion, none. As mentioned above, we do everything for you. So, going the Trust route is super easy on your part.

3. Register the suppressor to a corporation or LLC

  • Any officer of the corporation can be in possession of the suppressor.
  • Your paperwork can be filed electronically – which is much faster than a paper-based submission.
  • No signature is required from chief law-enforcement officer.
  • No fingerprint cards are required.
  • You need to keep your corporation in good standing with the state of NC, which can be more work than a trust (which is basically a “create it and forget about it” process).
  • You have to pay the Secretary of State of NC a filing fee every year for your annual return to keep your corporation or LLC "alive".
  • If you ever sell or dissolve your corporation, you will have to re-register your suppressor to another entity (like a trust), and pay a $200 transfer tax AGAIN.

If you haven't been keeping score, I'll help you out: the clear winner out of these three methods is going the Trust route. Plain and simple.

Now, you’re ready to buy your new toy!

The process of actually buying the suppressor online is similar to buying something from, or any other online retailer with one big difference: You won’t be able to take possession of the suppressor until the transfer process has been completed by the ATF. This process takes several months – but it's a safe bet to say that 99.9% of suppressor owners will agree that it’s well worth the wait!

After you go through the process the first time, you’ll realize that there really isn’t much to it. Typically, the most difficult part of the process for most guys is the wait you have to endure for the ATF to do their part.

This scratches the surface on how to buy a silencer in North Carolina. Instead of boring you with all the nitty gritty of how the paperwork process works, and what the ATF forms are like, etc. just go to our website, and browse through the info we have there. There is lots of useful info, FAQs, videos, suppressor specs, prices and other stuff on our site. And if you have more questions, or decide to pull the trigger on buying your own suppressor, just complete the contact form on the site, and we'll be happy to help you out!


Eric Morton, Owner/President

Saturday, November 23, 2013

Using One Suppressor Across Multi-caliber hosts: Good Idea?

45Osprey: multi-caliber pistol suppressor

Silencerco, maker of cutting-edge and enviable sound-suppressing devices, recently uploaded a short, artsy-fartsy video to their YouTube channel which focuses on using silencers across a wide latitude of calibers. It is a nice and well-made video, and can be seen HERE if you're interested. I appreciate the cinematography of the flick, but it lacks something: words. Not the printed type; there were plenty of those. I mean audible words... narration. There are subtitles and images and stuff, but unless you're paying very close attention and reading very fast, you'll probably get lost on which silencer is being shot on which gun, which ammo was used, which piston was used and so on. The music is good though.

I deemed it prudent to help Silencerco out and follow up with this article to share a few words about multi-caliber use with suppressors. (I don't mind giving them this free publicity because I like their products and recommend them to my customers anyway. It just seems that a brief dissection of their video is in order).

First of all, yes, buying one silencer and using it across several guns of similar or sub-caliber makes sense. It's a good idea. It's not without its downsides, but overall it's a good idea. Why would you want to buy a silencer that's rated for a larger or more powerful than your host gun? Like, why would you want to buy a .45 pistol silencer, if all you happen to own are 9mm pistols? Here are two reasons why you might consider doing just that:

1. Cost. It's cheaper in the long run. Your .45 silencer is essentially several silencers in one. It can handle .45ACP (obviously), 40S&W, 9mm, .380ACP, .38SP, .300BLK subsonic and yes, even .22LR or .22 Mag if you so desire. I don't recommend shooting .22LR through center-fire pistol silencers for other reasons which I'll discuss later, but it's entirely possible to do it, and it actually works ok. If you ever buy a .40 or a .45 pistol, you'll be set if you already own the .45 silencer. When swapping pistol suppressors, all you need to do is change out the piston to match the gun's barrel threads. Buying multiple pistons is much cheaper than buying multiple silencers.

2. Performance. Most sub-caliber rounds shot through larger-caliber silencers are almost as quiet as the smaller round being shot through a dedicated sub-caliber silencer. For example, a 147gr 9mm round shot through an Octane 45 HD will be very close in sound signature to the same 147gr 9mm being shot through an Octane 9 HD. The dB may meter a little higher when the 9mm is shot through the 45 silencer, and the sound may not be as consistent shot-to-shot, but in real life, it's hard to tell the difference. In fact, sometimes a 9mm through a .45 silencer has a more "pleasing" sound. Many times, it has a deeper tone and you might perceive it as being quieter.

Using large-for-caliber rifle silencers on sub-caliber rifles has similar qualities. For example, you can buy a .30 cal silencer and use it on your 5.56 AR-15 no problem. And honestly, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in sound. I've heard several .30 cal silencers on 5.56/.223 rifles that sound better than dedicated 5.56 cans. Part of the reason for this is that .30 cal silencers are bigger and therefore have more interior volume. More interior volume means there is more room for the gasses to expand and cool off. The end result sometimes results in better performance than a dedicated 5.56 silencer on your AR.

What are some of the downsides to using larger caliber silencers on sub-caliber guns? Here are a couple to file in the con category:

1. Size. The 45Osprey, for example, is larger than the 9Osprey. It's longer and heavier. Shooting the 45Osprey on your Glock 26 will work but your range buddies might laugh at you when they see you pull it out. Think a dwarf Australian Pygmy wearing Shaquille O'Neal's shoes.

2. Cost. Generally, the larger or higher the caliber the silencer is rated for, the more expensive it is. If you absolutely know that you will never ever own a .308 rifle... that you will always stick with your 5.56 AR-15, there is no reason to buy a .30 caliber silencer. Save your money and get a smaller and lighter dedicated 5.56 silencer.

A few words about .22LR silencers. Yes, with the right combination of adapters, pistons, mounts, etc. you can shoot just about ANY silencer on a .22LR pistol or rifle. I do not generally recommend it though. Why? Two big reasons:

1. Size. .22LR silencers are usually much smaller than their center-fire pistol silencer or rifle silencer counterparts. Especially in diameter. When you screw on a .45 can or a 9mm can to your .22LR gun, you will completely block your sights and the silencer will just look huge. And for most .22LR pistols, the extra weight of the big silencer just won't feel right. It will be much too muzzle heavy.

2. Lead. All .22LR guns spew lots of molten lead out of the barrel. This crud will coat the inside of your silencer. Therefore it's a good idea to clean your .22LR silencer regularly. Most dedicated .22LR silencers are designed with this in mind. 9mm and .45 silencers are not. In fact, some center-fire pistol silencers are sealed, meaning that they are not user-serviceable. A sealed silencer is manageable when shooting center-fire rounds, but with .22LR, I like to take my cans apart to clean them. Some people shoot .22LR through their nice expensive 5.56 silencer too. (Almost all center-fire rifle silencers are sealed). Yes, it's the same diameter projectile and the sound reduction performance will be great... but think about the lead building up on the inside of your $1,000 rifle silencer. You'll never really get all of that crud out, no matter how you try to clean it or soak it. It just doesn't make sense to shoot .22LR through anything other than a dedicated .22LR silencer in my opinion.

This is the tip of the iceberg about this topic, but hopefully you'll find this info helpful. If you have specific questions, as always, just shoot us an email via our website. We'll give you good silencer advice and help you get into the silencer game with little to no effort on your part. That's what we're here for.

Thanks, and happy shooting!

~ Eric Morton, Manager

Thursday, August 29, 2013

Obama Using Executive Power to go After NFA Trusts?

"I told you so..."

Let's be honest here, are you actually surprised that President Obama has finally wielded executive power to further push his gun control agenda? I'm not. The writing has been on the wall since before he was elected to his first term. The question now is: what exactly are the implications for you and other lawful citizens in terms of owning NFA items, and when will these new gun control (emphasis on "control") measures take place?

As I understand it, the basic premise to these new rules handed down by the Obama White House are as follows... at least as how it affects you and me:

NFA items - which conveniently for Obama -  fall under Federal jurisdiction, will soon go under the microscope for further scrutiny in the form of added regulations for NFA transfers to legal entities like Trusts. In layman's terms, this means that you and everyone else listed on your "NFA Trust" will be subjected to criminal background checks before taking possession of your NFA item. This could involve, at the worst case scenario, submissions of fingerprint cards, passport photos, blood samples, DNA samples, and your first-born son in exchange for being granted the "privilege" of owning harmless tools like silencers. Just kidding about the last three items on that list, by the way. At the very best (or should I say, least intrusive) scenario, only a NICS check by your local FFL/SOT dealer (that would be NC SILENCER, in case you were wondering) may be required before taking possession of your NFA item.  

On one hand, it's actually kind of laughable that it took so long for this administration to figure out that yes, you can legally buy NFA items without undergoing a background check. On the other hand, it's probably a sure bet that these new rules will almost certainly increase the already ridiculous wait times for ATF approval.

All that being said, it is still unclear to me whether these new rules will affect silencers. At first blush, I would think that it would, but every article I've read on this topic indicates that machine guns and short barrel shotguns will be affected. Silencers have not been specifically called out (at least I haven't noticed it). However, I'm inclined to dismiss this potential journalistic oversight as a result of the across-the-board ignorance of your average news person about the ins and outs of NFA items.

Speaking of ATF wait times, I do have some good news about that... (luckily, there is another side to this story). But I'll save that for another blog post or email newsletter. Keep your eyes open for that. I think you'll be pleased with this "top secret" info that have.

Meanwhile,  check out THIS article from the Blaze for more info on Obama's latest power grab. You can't say he didn't warn you...

Brought to you by Eric Morton and NC SILENCER: helping average Americans get silencers and other sinister NFA items into their own collection since 2009.


Friday, August 2, 2013

Yes! Hunting with Silencers in North Carolina now Legal!

Be vewwy vewwy quiet.....


Now you can finally use your silencers while hunting! Of course, we.... (ahem).. are pretty sure that you've probably already experimented with this concept before... (cough, cough), but the difference now is that it's now legal to do so.

For those of us in the know, it's very clear that suppressed hunting is the most obvious thing since peanut butter & jelly were first joined in holy matrimony between two slices of Wonder Bread... but it took our legislators a while to get clued in.


Governor Pat McCrory signed House Bill 937 into law, granting hunters in the state of North Carolina the right to use legally obtained suppressors while hunting all varmint, big game, and trophy animals. The new law, which was a part of the NRA omnibus bill, makes North Carolina the third state to reform suppressor hunting laws in 2013.

'Nuff said. Now, head over to and get you some... (silencers, that is.)

Thank you,


The guys at NC SILENCER

Monday, April 8, 2013

Suppressed Hunting in NC Soon to be Legal?

Suppressor + Hunting: About as natural and obvious as Peanut Butter + Jelly


On Tuesday, April 9, 2013, NC Senate Bill 201 is scheduled to be discussed. If passed, this bill would allow the use of lawfully possessed suppressors for hunting in NC. If you know anything at all about guns and suppressors, and you have an IQ anywhere higher than your shoe size, you would automatically know that hunting with suppressors is a no brainer. There's really no reason to waste each others time preaching to the choir, as they say. What we need to do... and do it NOW, is share our knowledge and enthusiasm about this topic with the powers that be who hold the power to make this bill a reality.

I've composed a letter that you are welcome to use if you'd like. Just copy my letter below in an email, sign (type) your name, and email it to as many representatives in NC as you can. Or, write your own email. Or call. Whatever you do... just urge them to support SB 201.

This is very important! Do it now! Thank you.

Below is a list of legislators who are supposed to hear the bill on April 9. That's tomorrow, folks. Email them now. The letter for you to use is below the names:

Sen. Andrew C. Brock (Co-Chairman)
Phone: (919) 715-0690

Sen. Brent Jackson (Co-Chairman)
Phone: (919) 733-5705

Sen. Bill Cook (Vice Chairman)
Phone: (919) 715-8293

Sen. Austin M. Allran
Phone: (919) 733-5876

Sen. Chad Barefoot
Phone: (919) 715-3036

Sen. Stan Bingham
Phone: (919) 733-5665

Sen. Angela R. Bryant
Phone: (919) 733-5878

Sen. Daniel G. Clodfelter
Phone: (919) 715-8331

Sen. Joel D. M. Ford
Phone: (919) 733-5955

Sen. Fletcher L. Hartsell, Jr.
Phone: (919) 733-7223

Sen. Eleanor Kinnaird
Phone: (919) 733-5804

Sen. Gene McLaurin
Phone: (919) 733-5953

Sen. Ronald J. Rabin
Phone: (919) 733-5748

Sen. Bill Rabon
Phone: (919) 733-5963

Sen. Shirley B. Randleman
Phone: (919) 733-5743

Sen. Tommy Tucker
Phone: (919) 733-7659

Sen. Trudy Wade
Phone: (919) 733-5856

Sen. Michael P. Walters
Phone: (919) 733-5651

To Whom it May Concern:

As you probably already know, on April 9, 2013, Senator Shirley Randleman's Senate Bill 201 is scheduled to be heard. If passed, this Bill would allow for the use of lawfully possessed suppressors while hunting.

I implore you to support this important piece of legislation.

There is a plethora of information freely available today which reinforces the reasons for using firearm suppressors while hunting. Books and articles have been written, studies have been done, and other state governments... and even other countries have overwhelmingly concluded, based on their findings, that hunting with a suppressor-equipped firearm makes absolute sense. No matter how you slice it,  there are practically ZERO downsides to using a suppressor while hunting. Because time is of utmost importance, I'll save you the trouble of conducting your own research, and provide a list of reasons right here.

Suppressors are regulated at the federal level, falling under the purview of the NFA Branch of the BATFE. They have always been legal for private ownership at the federal level. Individual states may or may not allow private ownership. North Carolina does allow private ownership.

Up until now, however, hunting with a suppressor has not been legally possible due to some ambiguous wording in NC General Statue 14-288.8, as well the "Manner of Take" for hunting regulations and restrictions. The wording of the law notwithstanding, the true facts of what suppressors really are and what they do, are completely contrary to the perception of the populace in general.

Here are some facts:

1. Suppressors are mufflers. They’re just like what's on your car. If your car was not equipped with "suppressors", it would sound like a lot like a machine gun.

2. Suppressors do not silence firearms. Hollywood's depiction of "silencers" is laughably incorrect. The blast is still very evident, but the sound pressure is reduced to a safer level.

3. Firearm reports (blasts) are dangerous to human hearing. Hearing loss is progressive. It never restores itself.

4. A suppressed firearm sounds roughly the same to the hunter as it would sound (and feel) if the hunter were wearing passive ear protection like earplugs or muffs. Therefore, no need for the hunter to wear hearing protection if he or she is using a suppressed firearm.

5. Suppressors also benefit those around the hunter. No need to wear ear protection, even if you're not the hunter. People living in neighborhoods close to hunting grounds will be much less annoyed/scared/upset/etc. if hunters used suppressors. They will still hear something, but it won't be a tremendous blast.

6. Suppressors were added to the NFA's list of "weapons" to be regulated in 1934 under the assumption that people would use them to poach their neighbor's livestock. There never has been any evidence to support that claim by the Congress of 1934, nor today. And there are still 100s of thousands of suppressors in use today in the USA,… most in states that DO allow suppressed hunting, yet poaching with suppressors simply does not happen.

7. Individuals who own suppressors are in the top-tier of the law-abiding class of the population. They do not commit crimes.... especially with suppressors. Yes, this statement is more subjective than fact. However, here are reasons for my claim:

a) Concealed Carry permit holders are 13% times LESS likely to commit ANY crime than the general population -- and this is not compared to stats of the "criminal class", it is compared to members of the general population like you and I, who have no interest in breaking the law.

b) 99% of suppressor owners also possess their Concealed Carry permit. Therefore, it can be said that suppressor owners are “cleaner” than your average babysitter.

c) The only study I've ever seen on the criminal use of suppressors found that between 1995 and 2005, out of 40,000 homicides which were committed in the USA, only .001% of them involved suppressors. That’s 4 out of 40,000. That is practically a non-consequential number. There are many more seemingly safe activities that we don’t ever consider regulating yet result in many more deaths. For example, many more people during that time-frame drowned in their bathtubs. In my opinion, any regulation of suppressors is unwarranted based on the available statistics.

8. England changed their laws to require that suppressors be used by hunters (in certain locales). Why? The HSE (Health Safety Executive) conducted a study of suppressors,\ and discovered that their government would spend less money for restorative hearing procedures for their citizens if sportsmen would use suppressors. A suppressor costs a lot less than years of hearing aids, funded by tax dollars.

9. Almost all branches of the US Military now use suppressors in training and combat to protect soldiers hearing. Because of many years the military gave no regard to hearing protection, the VA (Veterans Administration) spends billions of dollars every year forhearing aids for our veterans. Over time, the VA will spend less money for hearing procedures because of the recent proliferation of suppressor use in the military.

10. Firearm and suppressor owners are very politically savvy. We keep track of who votes or does not vote to protect our 2nd amendment rights. Please continue to support legislation that reinforces the attitudes of the constituents you represent.

I could go on, but hopefully, this is enough for you to get a good idea of my position on the virtues of suppressors. And I speak for thousands of other lawful American and North Carolinian hunters as well.

Please support SB 201.

Thank you,

Friday, April 5, 2013

The New SWR Octane 45 HD Suppressor

Does your .45 suppressor make your pistol float in mid-air? Don't be jealous, buy your own Octane 45 HD...

It is with great anticipation that NC SILENCER awaits an opportunity to christen SWR's new .45 ACP suppressor, the Octane 45 HD. Why are we excited? Glad you asked...

The Octane 45 HD's little brother the Octane 9 HD as already proven to be a winner... in our opinion, at least. Most manufacturers make liberal use of aluminum in their construction of 9mm and .45 ACP suppressors. While aluminum is fine for pistol-caliber suppressors, stainless steel (SS) is better. Again, this is our opinion. But allow me to qualify that claim:

Yes, aluminum is lightweight, and relatively strong. Those are desirable qualities in any suppressor. But SS is more durable and easier to clean than aluminum. SS handles harsher cleaning solvents and chemicals, and withstands ultrasonic cleaners. Dropping aluminum components (baffles, etc.) into an ultrasonic cleaner is generally discouraged by suppressor manufacturers. With the Octane 9 HD, the baffle stack is constructed of 100% 17-4 PH stainless steel. Also, the baffle design encapsulates all the crud from your ammo within the baffle chambers themselves. Nothing touches the outer tube - which by the way, is the actual silencer itself, according to the ATF because that's where the serial number is engraved.

This means that cleaning is super easy. Not only does the baffle "tube" slide right out of the outer tube slick as snot, the baffles themselves can be dropped into whatever cleaning medium you want. Cleaning by hand is often not necessary... especially with center-fire pistol-caliber ammo. 

And that brings me to another benefit of this baffle design and the SS construction; if you want to run an Octane 9 HD (or Octane 45, for that matter) on a .22LR rim-fire gun, you're golden. No need to worry about the inevitable lead build-up on the baffles.... or worse, the outer tube. Again, because the baffles are SS, they are very easy to clean. Cleaning "soldered-on" lead from aluminum baffles is possible, but not very enjoyable. Personally, I'd rather spend my time shooting than cleaning.

With the Octane 9 HD, you have all those desirable qualities with the added benefit of top-notch sound reduction performance. The 9 HD rivals what I consider to the reference standard of 9mm suppressors; the AAC Ti-RANT 9. The Ti-RANT 9 is a great suppressor... very lightweight and very quiet. But, open it up. There are a majority of aluminum baffles living in there. Lightweight? Sure. But, you won't find me shooting my Ti-RANT 9 on any of my .22LR host guns because of the lead issue.

So, that's all fine and dandy, NC SILENCER, but what about the Octane 45 HD? Well, that's a great question..

The Octane 45 HD shares the same great design features of the Octane 9 HD. So, naturally, it's a no-brainer. To my knowledge, it's the only (or at least one of the very few) .45 caliber pistol suppressors made with ALL stainless steel baffles. And yet, the Octane 45 HD is reasonably lightweight. Compare it to the Ti-RANT 45 and the 45Osprey and decide for yourself. The manufacturer-stated dB numbers for the Octane 45 HD are identical to the quietest .45 suppressors I've heard; the Ti-RANT 45 and the Silencerco 45Osprey. And yes, like the Ti-RANT 9, the Ti-RANT 45 makes use of aluminum baffles. 

I have not heard the Octane 45 HD in person yet, but I have every reason to believe the manufacturer's specs. I'm willing to bet that the Octane 45 HD will be indistinguishable from the Ti-RANT 45 in terms of sound reduction.

SWR is now owned by Silencerco and operate under the same roof. And both companies have very solid and reputable histories. Their customer service is in a class by itself. My own experience with the company and the feedback I've received from my customers reinforces my already positive opinion of SWR/Silencerco. This all adds up to a lot of compelling reasons to own an Octane 45 HD.

Bottom line: if you're thinking of a adding a .45 cal suppressor to your collection, you probably can't go wrong with the Octane 45 HD.

Coming soon to this "channel": a shooting review, with video - of the SWR Octane 45 HD. Hey SWR, are you reading this? NCS could use a demo can... (hint-hint).

Don't want to wait for NCS to do a review? Want to do your own "testing and evaluation"? Just head over to NCSILENCER and drop us a line. We'll get one on order for you ASAP.

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