Monday, October 20, 2014

Suppressor Effects

*Requires compatible firearm for optimal performance. Flux capacitor not needed.

Last week, Gun Digest regurgitated an article by David Bahde from the Fall 2014 Modern Shooter Magazine. It's about suppressors, and unlike many other articles/forums/blogs that I've seen on this subject, this article actually contains accurate information. Therefore, I'd like to share it here. It's worth reading.
Many perceptions surrounding suppressor effects come from marketing, blogs or the media making them suspect at best. Here’s the reality of how suppressors are used and what they can do.

Suppressors Are Not Silent
Long suppressors are fantastic for precision rifles—the larger the caliber, the longer the suppressor.

Perpetuated most often by movies, there is the idea that suppressors eliminate sound. This, however, is not entirely true, as they only suppress it. How much depends on many factors: the length of the suppressor, its construction, and the type of weapon and ammunition used. Pistol-caliber firearms are pretty quiet, as are rimfires with low-velocity ammunition. Centerfire rifles with subsonic rounds are similarly quiet, but are never completely silent. Most supersonic ammunition makes noise that is louder than you think. Suppressors may reduce the report to safe levels, but they still make noise and often require hearing protection.

Affects on the Action
Suppressors trap, redirect or alter gas expended from a discharged cartridge, both in front of and behind the expended bullet. This will effect your weapon’s operation, and to which extent depends on the weapon and ammunition used, as well as the suppressor’s design. Suppressors cause back pressure, although newer designs cause much less than what they once did. How and when it occurs is critical.

Most have little effect on bolt guns beyond heat transfer and a sticky bolt that is hard to lift. Gas guns are a different story. Increased back pressure causes increased bolt speed and can wreak havoc on function. Piston-driven systems are less susceptible, but can still be problematic. As a general rule, the shorter the barrel, the greater the effect on the gun’s performance. Adjustable gas blocks help but remain an issue. Excess gas in the action can also affect reliability as the action can get fouled quickly. Rapid fire produces significant heat transfer to the weapon and can have an adverse effect on operation.

Pistols suffer the opposite effect. Suppressors lessen the recoil impulse required to make your pistol cycle. Some require recoil boosters to ensure proper operation. Low-powered ammunition can turn your semi-auto into a single shot. Suppressors can be attached to revolvers, but much of the trapped gas just goes out the cylinder gap, lessening efficiency. I have not seen one mounted to a revolver, other than in old movies.

Subguns are the perfect firearms for suppressors. A can seldom affects the subgun’s reliability, is quiet and has little adverse effect on overall operation. Rifles specifically tuned for subsonic ammunition (such as the 300 Blackout) are similar. Excess gas is minimal with recoil, all but nonexistent. There is very little downside to suppressing a subgun.

Suppressors Enhance Accuracy
Unless improperly installed or attached, suppressors do make shooting more accurate. Velocity change is low to nonexistent and generally increases. Modern designs have no adverse affect on the bullet. Standard deviation decreases, as a rule, providing consistency, and significant recoil reduction allows you to be more accurate.

Less muzzle rise, less sound and less concussive effect also help a shooter improve accuracy. As long as they do not come loose and are installed properly, modern suppressors will do nothing less than enhance a shooter’s accuracy.

Carbines under sustained fully automatic fire, or rapid fire, can be more problematic. Significant heat transfer may show a decrease in accuracy while hot. Shooting a suppressor until it is red- or white-hot is going to definitely cause issues.

Since most people do not shoot this way, accuracy is seldom an issue. With tens of thousands of rounds through suppressed subguns, a quality suppressor has no effect on accuracy even when hot. Pistol ammunition just does not provide enough excess gas or heat to cause a problem. You are not going to see any real increase in accuracy, but neither will it degrade.

More Suppressor Effects
Suppressors should neither be revered, nor feared. They are simply useful tools.

Suppressors can cause impact shift when attached to the barrel of a gun. How much again depends on suppressor design, ammunition and weapon choice. Heavy suppressors have a greater effect, especially on precision rifles. Suppressors constructed with titanium and high-quality designs minimize change. True of both precision rifles and carbines, several recent designs have almost no detectable impact shift. Match-grade rifles and ammunition see the least changes.

Weight and length of a suppressor can certainly affect the balance of the firearm. Long suppressors are quiet and heavy, while short ones are lighter and louder. Short suppressors affect balance and weigh less. You have to decide what is most important, as it is a trade-off. Thread-on suppressors typically weigh less since attachment systems add weight. Short and fat suppressors are fantastic for defensive tactics where handling is important and sound suppression is secondary. Long suppressors are fantastic for precision rifles—the larger the caliber, the longer the suppressor.

Suppressors will lessen flash, some almost as well as a flash suppressor, and quality low-flash ammunition also helps a great deal. Rimfire suppressors get really dirty compared to other designs; fortunately, most can be disassembled for cleaning. The same can be true for pistol and some subgun suppressors. Modern rifle suppressors seldom require maintenance, or even cleaning, and most cannot be disassembled.

Bottom Line
Modern-day suppressors clearly have more advantages to them than disadvantages. Above all, they enhance the shooting experience and usability of your firearm. Given proper choices, they make your weapon better at its job, make the firearm easier to use and ultimately more fun to shoot. However, they are not magical mystical devices, nor are they for everyone.

The cost remains substantial, and the BATF and state laws still control availability. They should never be purchased without considerable forethought based on your planned use and firearms you want to use one. Suppressors should neither be revered, nor feared. They are what they are, and used properly, they are fantastic tools. Take the time to get the right one, and you will get years of enjoyment. Trust me, once you go suppressed, it is really hard to go back.

Well said, Mr. Bahde.

You heard the man, he said that once you go suppressed, it is really hard to go back. Seems that you can trust him about that. I sure do. If you're ready to make that jump over to our side - the WWOS (wonderful world of suppressors) -  head over to NC SILENCER and pick up one for yourself. You'll be glad you did.

Saturday, October 4, 2014

ATF eForm How-To Guide

This can be yours too! For the low, low price of only $200...
Earlier this year, a customer of NC SILENCER put together a very nice How-To guide for using the ATF eForm system to file a Form 1 for an SBR build. He posted his guide on the forum and gave us permission to refer people to it.

We've been happily referring our customers and other nice SBR-loving Americans to it ever since.

In an effort to help increase the visibility of this very comprehensive and helpful How-To guide, I thought I would link to it from the NC SILENCER blog as well. So here you go... enjoy!

After you've gotten your Form 1 submission under your belt and you're waiting for it to be approved and for your tax stamp to arrive, you may wonder what kind of suppressor you're going to run on your new SBR. Well, no need to wonder... we can help you there too. Head over to NC SILENCER and we'll take care of all of that pesky Form 4 stuff for you. And in case you're wondering, your part in getting the suppressor paperwork rolling is much, MUCH easier than navigating the ATF eForm for the SBR paperwork. Why? Because we do it all for you in this case. You HAVE to go through a Class III dealer when you buy a suppressor. So we take care of everything for you on the back end.


Friday, July 4, 2014

4th of July Salutations, News and a Memorial Fund from NC SILENCER

Where liberty dwells, there is my country.  ~Benjamin Franklin

Happy 238th birthday, America! My, you have aged well. You look as young as you did in 1914 when Woodrow Wilson began to dress you up in unbridled liberalism. In fact, you look almost exactly the same today. Wow, what a gal.

But seriously though, happy Fourth of July… happy Independence Day. I’m sure that most of you are spending this time with family, friends and loved ones. I hope this is a time for relaxation and reflection for you – reflection on what it means to be a citizen of this great country that we live in, and to consider the birth of the United States of America and think about what so many before us have sacrificed so that we can enjoy the simple pleasures in life that a lot of us take for granted today.

We have a very attractive Fourth of July sale this year: We are offering a spectacular deal on AAC Ti-RANT 9 silencers. For this weekend only – from 12:00AM Saturday, July 5 to 12:00AM Monday July 7 – AAC Ti-Rant 9 silencers are half price at NC SILENCER. A clean cut down the middle… only $425 for a Ti-RANT 9 for these 48 hours only. Please note that $425 does NOT include the $200 tax stamp. Uncle Sam still wants his cut. Supplies are limited, so act fast if you want to take advantage of this deal. First come, first served. Click HERE to contact us.

UPDATE: the Fourth of July sale above has expired. ~ EM 7/7/14

Also, I'd like to share a personal story about a customer of ours:

Last year, we were contacted by a customer; a Mr. Ericsson Davis, a young First Lieutenant and Aviator in the United States Marine Corps stationed at MCAS New River, NC. He was extremely interested in buying a Daniel Defense MK18 5.56 SBR and after we shared a few e-mails, he decided to purchase the rifle. About three weeks ago, his tax stamp came back and we reached out to Ericsson via email to let him know that his gun was ready to pick up.

A couple days later, on June 16, I received a phone call from his mother, Marjorie, who told me that Ericsson was killed in a plane crash over the Memorial holiday weekend. She was going through his affairs and discovered that he had purchased the SBR from NC SILENCER and seen the email we sent to his account. And now that the tax stamp for Ericsson's SBR had arrived from ATF, we had to do something about it because Marjorie had no interest in trying to take possession of the SBR for herself.

After discussing options, the decision was made to refund her for the cost of the SBR and request the ATF to void Ericsson's tax stamp, thus returning the gun into NC SILENCER inventory. Marjorie
mentioned to me that there were several loose ends that she needed to tie up related to her son’s death and that the refund of the SBR would help out a lot. So I asked Marjorie if she would be ok if NC SILENCER set up a memorial fund for Ericsson to give our customers and friends a chance to contribute financially to help her with settling her son's affairs. She was very appreciative of the offer.

So after thinking about it for a while, here is what I’ve decided to do – we’ll have a drawing from all who contribute to this memorial fund to win the SBR that would have been Ericsson’s. To enter the drawing to win the Daniel Defense MK18 SBR all you have to do is click the link below, which will take you to our homepage where you can enter the drawing by making a donation. It doesn't matter if you contribute .10 cents or $10, your entry will be included in the drawing.

Click here to enter:  The Ericsson Davis Memorial Fund

100% of the proceeds from this Memorial Fund will go to Marjorie Davis, the mother of Ericsson Davis.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. We talk to so many of you so often that we really do consider
you to be not just customers, but friends as well. Hank had several long phone conversations and shared many emails with Ericsson about various NFA toys and his military aviation training that he felt that he knew him fairly well. Like many of you, we have a lot in common with our customers in regards to our love of guns and silencers, and Ericsson was no exception. We would do the same thing for any of you if a similar scenario were to happen to you. We’re hoping that you will consider making a small donation – or however much you feel is appropriate toward this Memorial Fund.

I asked Marjorie to share a few words about her son’s achievements. Here is what she said.

“Ericsson grew up on a small horse farm in Nokesville, Virginia and went to Virginia Military Institute, majoring in Civil and Environmental Engineering, with a minor in Arabic. He graduated with honors in 2010 and commissioned in the United States Marine Corps. He went to flight school in Pensacola (fixed wing and rotor), and Corpus Christi (multi-engine) and got his pilot wings June 2013. He transferred to MCAS New River, NC where he completed training in the Osprey in April 2014, and was assigned to VMM-264 the Black Knights as the Adjutant.

He had just finished training - a fast burner, he graduated high school at 16, college at 20 and was almost 25 when he died. His unit, the Black Knights, is deploying this summer and he was looking forward to flying the Osprey, being Adjutant and using his Arabic. He chose the Osprey over jets because of the mission - he would be close to the ground, supporting the ground forces. Plus, he wanted to work with a crew, not solo in a jet.

He has a number of friends in Special Forces and classmates that have already deployed, but because of the lengthy training to fly the Osprey (a twin engine that flies like a helicopter and plane), he had not yet had any boots on the ground time. He was due to pin on Capt. this month and his unit promoted him posthumously.”

Ericsson Davis

So this Memorial Fund serves two purposes: the first is to offer our customers and friends a chance to contribute financially to assist Ericsson Davis' mother to help her settle his affairs in the wake of his untimely death, and secondly, a chance to take this Daniel Defense MK18 SBR home for free. NC SILENCER will seed the Memorial Fund with $50 and keep it open for the rest of the month. At 10:00PM on Thursday, July 31, I will draw one entry at random, and notify the winner via email. We will give the Daniel Defense SBR to the winner for free.

Remember, in order to be approved by ATF for transfer and possession of the SBR, you must be at least 21 years old and reside in a state that allows private ownership of SBRs. Also, the winner is responsible for the $200 ATF tax stamp fee. This particular Daniel Defense MK18 model is valued at $1,800.

Thank you and I hope you have a good 4th of July weekend. Stay safe.

Eric Morton,

Tuesday, June 24, 2014

NC Votes to Abolish Jim-Crow Era Gun Law

In related news, in the state of California, it is a misdemeanor to shoot at any kind of game from a moving vehicle, unless the target is a whale.

Up until last week, there was a law on the books in Durham County NC that required gun owners in Durham County to register their guns with the county. The law was from 1935. Luckily, the law was largely unenforced. But it was still a law nonetheless, and served as a reminder that the era of Jim Crow laws is not yet dead.

As fellow blogger over at Mississippi Rebel takes a closer look at this law and its ultimate retraction from the hallowed annals of the punitive NC legislative body. 


NC Strikes Down Jim Crow Gun Law

Last week, lawmakers in North Carolina voted to abolish a Jim Crow era gun law that required gun owners in Durham County to register their guns with the county.

Jim Crow gun laws like this one are a reminder of the racist roots of gun control — something liberals and gun grabbers don’t want you know about. Many state and county gun laws that are still in effect today were originally passed to keep guns out of the hands of blacks.

This kept happening long after Jim Crow. In California in the 1960s, the Mulford Act (which was supported by the NRA) was passed out of fear of the Black Panther movement.

In North Carolina, lawmakers voted unanimously to retract the law. Because the law only covered one county, the bill striking it down didn’t require the signature of the governor and went into effect immediately.

The lawmakers in North Carolina did the right thing, but this law is a reminder of how the government uses gun registration to keep weapons away from anyone who might oppose it. Jim Crow gun laws had nothing to do with crime and everything to do with consolidating the government’s power.

The fact that these laws are still in effect in some places is a disgusting reminder of the real motivations behind gun control.

This little nugget of info was brought to you by NC SILENCER and Mississippi Rebel who remind you that diapers and politicians should be changed often... both for the same reason. 

Thursday, May 8, 2014

Review of the Coastal Gun Inc. Ultima 45 Suppressor

Enjoy the class. Just don't chew your Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun...
Coastal Gun, Inc. in Brunswick, GA probably isn't a "household name" among silencer enthusiasts... at least compared to companies like AAC and Silencerco. But then again, it's not likely that Coastal Gun lays out as much money in advertising as AAC or Silencerco does. So it's understandable if you've never heard of them or their products.

If you don't spend a lot of dollars for flashy advertising to woo customers, how do you get attention in the silencer marketplace and gain a reputation for your products? Well, there are two things that usually work; one, make your products affordable by pricing them below the competition, and/or two, offer exemplary customer service and follow-through with all your customers. This approach often takes time because you are relying heavily on referrals and repeat customers, but in the end it pays off. You end up with loyal customers and positive feedback in the marketplace. There is really no way to buy that kind of advertising. Customer service with a genuine personal touch has no price tag.

It's not often that a company can do both of these things simultaneously and do them well, but Coastal has done a great job balancing these two attributes. Their products are very reasonably priced and they have proven themselves to be a great company to work with; before, during and after the sale. And as an added bonus, the suppressors that Coastal Gun Inc makes are high quality. Just because you're paying less doesn't necessarily mean you're getting less with Coastal Gun.

So I thought I'd give Coastal Gun a plug and focus on one of their suppressors; the Ultima 45. This is a pistol suppressor designed for .45 ACP semi-auto pistols, and can be used for other pistol calibers as well, as I'll mention later. The following photos depict the Ultima 45 in various states of disassembly and I've shared a few words appropriate to the photo immeditaly following each photo. Hopefully, this approach will give you a good idea of the construction, fit and finish, size and weight of the suppressor. I'll also give you my personal opinions and feedback of its real-life performance as a conclusion. Enjoy!

Ultima 45 with take down tool. As shipped from manufacturer.
Coastal Gun Inc. ships each Ultima 45 with a nice, durable nylon case. The top is secured with Velcro. Also included is a tool (basically a hand-held spanner wrench) that comes in handy when disassembling the suppressor and removing the baffles for cleaning.

Serial number covered with tape to protect the privacy of innocent bystanders.
The suppressor out of its case. The engraving is neat and clean. A little on the shallow side. As you can see, the engraved areas produce a white-ish color of the metal below. I've gotten these suppressors very dirty and the engraved area will become noticeably duller, but it can be cleaned easily back to original. The tube is aircraft grade aluminum (black matte anodized).      


Manufacturer's specs: 9.5" length, 1.375" diameter.
   The manufacturer says 9.5" length and that's accurate according to my ruler... measured from the tip of the piston to the end of the suppressor. It might appear longer the 9.5" in this photo, but that's because of the fish-eye look the camera lens created.

Manufacturer's specs: 10.4 ounces.
 Manufacturer claims 10.4 ounces. I believe that is without the recoil booster assembly installed. With the booster, the weight is 12.9 ounces according to my scale. That's a little heavier than average for .45 suppressors.

Ultima 45 baffles. Aluminum construction.
The baffles of the Ultima 45 are aluminum. They stack on top of each other in the tube by nesting on the ridge that you can see at the base of each cone. The straight sides of the baffles help keep crud from building up on the inside of the suppressor tube. Not quite a tube-within-a-tube, but close. This makes disassembly easy. In this case, I removed the baffles from the "muzzle" end or exit side of the suppressor by first unscrewing the front cap (the black ring on the top right of the photo).

Close up of the Ultima 45 baffles.
The ridge at the base of the cone part of the baffle is more obvious on this close up photo.

Ultima 45 baffle stack.
 Notice the spacer on the left (entrance end) of the baffle stack. This allows for a larger gas expansion area before the gasses enter the baffles.

Tool for removing the locking ring.
One of the functions of the included tool is to engage the locking ring (that snugs up against the spacer which in turn, compresses the baffles tight). You can easily unscrew the ring with this tool, thereby gaining access to the baffles from the "breach" or entrance side of the suppressor.

Locking ring almost out...
 Self explanatory.

The recoil booster can be removed from the suppressor by hand. The tool is for disassembling the actual booster assembly.
You can take the booster apart (to swap out the piston for another thread pitch or whatever) with the booster assembly is still attached to the suppressor. Here, the booster assembly has been removed first. The included tool is used for this too, by utilizing the other side that has two pins.

Factory fresh, greased up piston and spring.
By unscrewing the retaining ring on the booster face, you can remove the piston and driving spring. Coastal Gun ships new Ultima 45 suppressors loaded with high temp grease. In this photo, the booster assembly retaining ring is still on the piston. It's the black part toward the left part of the piston.

Ultima 45 recoil booster with piston installed and showing an extra spring and piston for visual aid in design.
The booster on the top of the photo has the factory piston and spring installed. I laid out another piston and spring set next to it so you can see how they go together. This is how you would swap out the piston for a different thread pitch so you can use the suppressor on different guns, i.e. swap out the .578"-28 for a 1/2"-28 to go from .45 to 9mm.

This is how you get an Ultima 45 dressed for a date with a 9mm pistol.
Different piston, same spring. Now you can run the Ultima 45 on your Glock 17 9mm.

So, now you've seen the Coastal Gun Inc. Ultima 45 up close and personal. Now for the questions you're probably still wondering about; How does it shoot? Is it quiet? Does NC SILENCER recommend it? Will Miley Cyrus twerk at the NBA Finals? Depending on the order you asked them, the answers are Yes, Yes, Good, and I couldn't care less. Here's some more detail:

How does it shoot? Good. It does feel a tad chunkier and nose-heavy than say an AAC Ti-RANT, but it functions properly and allows the gun to cycle as it's supposed to... that's been my experience with shooting the Ultima 45 on a Glock 21, at least. That's not to say that there is some pistol / ammo combination out there that might hang up every now and then with the Ultima. But I believe that the recoil booster design is solid. It works well, and that's what matters.

Is it quiet? Yes. It is actually above average in terms of sound reduction. You can shoot the Ultima 45 all day on your .45 pistol without needing hearing protection. And it works great on 9mm pistols too. I can't speak for .40 S&W pistols as I have not tried it, but .40 usually isn't as quiet anyway so I wouldn't expect any miracles.

Does NC SILENCER recommend it? You bet. You can spend hundreds more for a .45 pistol suppressor and not really gain a lot more performance, except maybe for weight and size savings. For $550 MSRP, you can't go wrong with the Ultima 45.

If you really want me answer the question about Miley Cyrus, I'm sorry... you're reading the wrong blog. I couldn't care less what she's doing.

That's it for today's assignment. Hope you learned something. Don't forget your homework, and I'll see you next time.


Prof. Eric Morton, SG (silencer guru)

Monday, March 24, 2014

Suppressors and Other Toys: a Fun Shoot & NFA Demo

To celebrate the re-birth of Spring (which officially happened on Thursday, March 20 at 12:57 P.M. Eastern, year of our Lord 2014), we thought it fitting to usher in the new season with lot of suppressed shooting. And as it turned out, the weather on Saturday was awesome, we brought out some of our demo guns and silencers and invited a few friends. The result was very satisfactory. Fun was had by all, and despite many hundreds... or maybe even thousands of rounds fired that day, nobody in our little shooting party died.

Take that, Dianne Feinstein.

I was preoccupied for most of the day with shooting stuff and talking shop with my friends, and I never thought to pull out my camera to document any of the festivities. But we were lucky enough that one guy's girlfriend had the presence of mind to snap a few shots. Here are a few pictures for you to enjoy:

This first picture is me shooting an IWI Tavor 5.56 bullpup rifle with an XCaliber Firearms Mountaineer-D suppressor. I think this rifle makes a great suppressor host. It is short (bullpup design), but still has a full 16" barrel. The longer barrel means that it suppresses well. Also, most of the weight of this rifle is concentrated toward the rear, so hanging a silencer on the end of the barrel doesn't make it feel nose-heavy.  
IWI Tavor 5.56 with Xcaliber Firearms Mountaineer-D suppressor. No hearing protection needed.

This is a Rossi Ranch Hand .38SP / .357Mag SBR with a Silencerco 9Osprey suppressor. This set up is interesting... it's an unlikely marriage of a John Wayne mare's leg lever-action rifle with a ├╝ber-modern eccentric design suppressor. But the result is awesome. 158 grain .38 Special ammo is inherently subsonic. Add that important ingredient to the lever-action rifle (no cycling noise) and you get a very quiet and accurate rabbit popper.
Rossi Ranch Hand SBR with Silencerco 9Osprey suppressor.

Here are some of the long guns and SBRs we played with. The suppressors that we swapped around among various hosts were the Silencerco Saker, Mack Brothers Varminter 2.0, AAC Ti-Rant 45, Silencerco/SWR Octane 9 HD, Silencerco 9Osprey, XCaliber Firearms Mountaineer-D, Silencerco Sparrow, XCaliber Genesis, Thompson Machine Isis22, XCaliber Firearms Genesis Micro, Wilson Combat Whisper and Cadiz Gun Works Econo-Can.
All you can eat buffet.

 Some of the handguns we played with.
... and desert!

Me showing my 9-year-old son a few things about shooting a pistol. He shot a GSG .22LR pistol with a Genesis suppressor very well.

I say, "when they start picking up sticks and pointing them and saying BANG!.." it's time to start teaching them about firearms. So... yeah, about 3 or 4-years old is a good start.

My son again. This is his favorite combo: a Savage MKII bolt-action .22LR rile with a Thompson Machine Isis22 suppressor, Weaver scope and Harris bi-pod. He likes the pin-point accuracy it has. He felled one of the wooden stands for our proprietary, and soon to be patented Paper Plate & Shoot-N-See Targets. After working on one area of the "trunk" quietly for a couple mags, the "tree" finally fell.   
Savage MKII with Thompson Machine Isis22 suppressor, Weaver scope and Harris bi-pod.

Paper Plate & Shoot-N-See range with a few AR550 steel poppers.
Improvised range. Berm is about 60 yards.

Never assume. Most of the guys who came to our little event are gun guys, but it's always a good idea to reiterate the four basic, common sense gun rules. 
Sir, Yes Sir!, Jeff Cooper.

We even set up a remote-controlled clay pigeon target thrower. My Mossberg 590A1 12-gauge shotgun isn't exactly the kind of gun you'd bring to a sporting clays function, but in the right hands, it can sling out a couple of loads fairly quickly and accurately. 
Every self-respecting shotgun owner needs one of these.

The whole day was a lot of fun. We thought it was a good way to ring in some warmer weather, and I think that everyone who came agreed.

Now, if all goes well, we'll do a very similar event next weekend (3/29/14) at the DPRC (Durham Pistol and Rifle Club) in Durham, NC. It's actually in Haw River NC, but a quick Google search will give you all the info you need. As far as NC SILENCER is concerned, we will be at this event as a guest of the club who is hosting one of their fun shoots and demo days. We are using this opportunity to once again let our customers come and try out their toys that we have in quarantine. It's kind of like a conjugal visit. The event is open to the public, so come one, come all. The DPRC is charging a $20 admission fee, but if you want to come shoot any of our demo suppressors, feel free. We would appreciate it if you brought some of your own ammo, though. We only have so much..

So, try to keep your Saturday open next weekend and swing by if you can. It is March 29, 2014 and it's at the DPRC in Durham, NC. Hope to see you there!


Eric Morton, Owner/Manager

Saturday, March 15, 2014

How To Buy a Firearm Silencer in NC

They're from the government and they're here to help.

If you're a veteran to the NFA world, this is basic info for you. But many people have never purchased a suppressor - aka silencer - and may be intimidated by the process. I realize that it's hard to imagine that there are still gun guys out there who have never bought a suppressor, but it's true... yes, there are still a few hold-outs. So, the purpose of this post is to clarify what you need to do in order to buy a suppressor if you are a resident of NC and are new to the whole process.

There is so much information online from conflicting sources that it might seem overwhelming at first. But the reality is that buying a suppressor is very simple... especially when you choose to work with a company that is experienced with all the ins and outs of the whole process (that would be NC SILENCER, of course). As the late, great philosopher Aristotle said, "It is easier to buy a suppressor from NC SILENCER than to buy a dishwasher." That is such a true statement... mainly because NC SILENCER doesn't sell dishwashers.

The first thing you need to do is determine if suppressor ownership is legal where you live.
Currently, the following states allow private ownership of suppressors: AL, AR, AK, AZ, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MI, MO, MS, MT, ND, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WI, WV, and WY. We at NC SILENCER are experts at helping residents of North Carolina legally obtain suppressors, but if you live somewhere other than NC, don't despair just yet. Contact us and we'll discuss your options.

Many people are under the false impression that they need a “Class 3” license in order to own a suppressor. There is no requirement for you to obtain any kind of special license to buy and own suppressors. The Class 3 designation is simply a title that ATF gives to certain FFL dealers who have become licensed to deal in NFA (National Firearm Act) items. So, the dealer you buy your suppressor from needs to be licensed, but you do not. All you basically do when you buy a suppressor is apply for a tax-paid transfer of the item from the dealer to you. This flat-fee tax ($200) registers the suppressor in your name or your Trust's name (more about Trust's later). Think of it like a $200 cover fee imposed by the ATF to gain entrance to the party. The paperwork aspect of the process is easy when you work with NC SILENCER because we do it all for you.

There are three possible ways that we can help you register a suppressor to you. Any of these methods causes the suppressor to be legally transferred into your possession. So, what are the pros and cons of each of these methods? How should you register your new silencer?

1. Register the suppressor in your own name

Frankly, under current federal and North Carolina law, we see no advantages to registering a suppressor in your name. It's very unlikely you'd be able to register the suppressor in your name anyway in NC because over 90% of sheriffs in NC - at the time of me writing this post - do NOT like to sign off on your paperwork. They have no legal obligation to sign for you, so if they don't want to or they don't like the way you look, they simply will refuse to sign. So basically, this method is a dead-end road anyway.

  • Requires signature from chief law-enforcement officer where you live (typically your sheriff).
  • Requires fingerprint cards.
  • Your forms cannot be filed electronically, which means they will generally take quite a bit longer to be approved.

2. Register the suppressor to a trust

  • Anyone listed as a trustee in the trust can be in possession of the suppressor.
  • A revocable trust can be changed at any time without notifying the ATF.Your paperwork can be filed electronically – which is faster than a paper-based submission.
  • No signature is required from chief law-enforcement officer.
  • No fingerprint cards are required You only need to create the trust once. The same trust can be used for all future suppressors or other NFA items (such as short barreled rifles).
In our opinion, none. As mentioned above, we do everything for you. So, going the Trust route is super easy on your part.

3. Register the suppressor to a corporation or LLC

  • Any officer of the corporation can be in possession of the suppressor.
  • Your paperwork can be filed electronically – which is much faster than a paper-based submission.
  • No signature is required from chief law-enforcement officer.
  • No fingerprint cards are required.
  • You need to keep your corporation in good standing with the state of NC, which can be more work than a trust (which is basically a “create it and forget about it” process).
  • You have to pay the Secretary of State of NC a filing fee every year for your annual return to keep your corporation or LLC "alive".
  • If you ever sell or dissolve your corporation, you will have to re-register your suppressor to another entity (like a trust), and pay a $200 transfer tax AGAIN.

If you haven't been keeping score, I'll help you out: the clear winner out of these three methods is going the Trust route. Plain and simple.

Now, you’re ready to buy your new toy!

The process of actually buying the suppressor online is similar to buying something from, or any other online retailer with one big difference: You won’t be able to take possession of the suppressor until the transfer process has been completed by the ATF. This process takes several months – but it's a safe bet to say that 99.9% of suppressor owners will agree that it’s well worth the wait!

After you go through the process the first time, you’ll realize that there really isn’t much to it. Typically, the most difficult part of the process for most guys is the wait you have to endure for the ATF to do their part.

This scratches the surface on how to buy a silencer in North Carolina. Instead of boring you with all the nitty gritty of how the paperwork process works, and what the ATF forms are like, etc. just go to our website, and browse through the info we have there. There is lots of useful info, FAQs, videos, suppressor specs, prices and other stuff on our site. And if you have more questions, or decide to pull the trigger on buying your own suppressor, just complete the contact form on the site, and we'll be happy to help you out!


Eric Morton, Owner/President